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May 12th, 2006 at 03:10 am
I don’t mind traveling for work, really. It’s kind of a treat to be in a motel room, because you are forced to relax. Somehow this time, even though I was at an actual capital R Resort, for a special conference, I am glad to be home. The luxurious food coming at me almost blew my fuses – I’m too used to my crockpot concoctions. I will admit that the fresh pineapple was pretty fabulous.
It just feels good to be home. My real luxuries are the bath I’m about to take, with a good paperback. Perhaps I’ll have an orange juice and club soda mix.
There were two cars full of people who went to the conference. The car I wasn’t in evidently had a conversation about my Challenge. I don’t think I’ve ever had one of my hobbies interest other people enough to talk about it when I wasn’t around.
I realized I hadn’t brought a razor once we arrived. As I was planning on shorts and a tank top after a winter of growing fur, I was troubled. (My usually well equipped Travel bathroom bag offered me only a spoon. Huh?) One person overheard me mention I was looking for a little store, and she offered me a razor out a three pack she had just bought. She would accept no money. It’s sometimes the small favors we appreciate; I had been thinking I had going to have to pay those high prices for the convenience. I told her I wished her the reward of a good Door Prize, and she did win a good one.
I did get a bill for a deductible on a procedure I had. Medical is going to cause grief again this month.
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May 9th, 2006 at 04:49 am
Tomorrow I leave for a 3 day trip for work, and I come home Thursday night. Next week I might be gone at least one night. June has a couple trips, too. This trip is to a place that’s sunny, and has a pool, so it might be nice to hang out after work around the pool. I like my co-workers a lot-that’s good, because I’m sharing a room with one of them.
You know, not spending is really a habit. I keep thinking, “how am I thrifty today?” And I keep coming up with a simple answer: Not spending anything. Other than some groceries and rent, really this month I’ve spent $8 bucks at garage sales.
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May 7th, 2006 at 11:11 pm
I have no reason to be in a bad mood. The house is reasonably clean (just a Goodwill pile in the middle of the living room). My Guy is fine. Work is fine. No migraines, no other bodily problems. Both Challenges on track. I am in a mild funk regardless. The flavor of my funk is more tinged with irritability; it’s not the Blues, there’s more grouch.
My treatment will consist of a long, hot bath, and some muffins. Peach banana oatmeal cornmeal walnut muffins, with a few dried cranberries even. I have a couple new paperbacks from garage sales. I’m going to avoid speaking, because I can just tell I won’t be nice.
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May 7th, 2006 at 12:17 am
This isn’t news, because a lot of people have figured out that being frugal can be a good for the body. Despite my history of thrift, I myself had never embraced the natural fusion of smart spending and healthy living.
I’ve hit eight pounds on my Credible Threat Challenge. I’m eating almost all meals at home (and packing lunches). I’m eating wholesome lower fat, higher nutrition meals. Lots of beans, whole grains, vegetables in all forms, small portions of lean meat and fish. I’m eating less, and certainly not eating the rich, oversized helpings from restaurants. I’m walking more (giving my car a break, and my gas bill).
Start at 196, goal to get to 176 or I face a bikini and a camera. I’m forty percent of the way towards my goal, and it has not been too much effort. I’m just focusing on always eating breakfast, never missing my morning and afternoon snack, eating more of the healthy stuff before I treat myself to rich or gooey or sweet stuff, and making sure I savor any treats instead of scarfing them. I’m working to have my eating habits become just that: habits.
It's an extra incentive that garage sales and thrift stores have a lot of excellent clothing in the smaller sizes.
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May 6th, 2006 at 11:39 pm
Today I spent small money on some great stuff at garage sales, which almost compensates for spending money on something really stupid.
First, the stupidity. I have Pfaltzgraff tableware in the Salerno pattern on my wish list with E-bay. I bought a big set for $16.99 at Ross years ago, and I was an employee and got 20% off. I’ve probably spent triple that adding pieces, for no good reason at all. I like Asian looking things, and I like things to be all one simple pattern. So I’ve ordered more of this pottery to replace pieces broken over the years. Well, lately I have enough, but I still get the wish list mailings. So sometimes I make a low bid, and I’m always outbid, and I’ve shopped without spending. Except last night my low bid was the highest bid, and shipping kicked my butt. Seven ninety-nine plus 9.87 shipping for 4 cups is 17.93 spent out of the household category. I am not proud. It's a pretty pattern, but I can't find pictures that do it justice.
The good stuff: a crock pot with a removable crock-I’ve been wanting that for a long time-$3, household. Three gifts for Birthday/Christmas, $2.25. Gift for My Guy to give to his mom for Mother’s Day ,$1, which I’ll be reimbursed. Nice blouse and sweater, $1.75. Books, 75 cents, under the entertainment category. Might Bright book light, retails over 10 bucks, 25 cents, household. Wooden box and bath beads, free. Nine dollars, eight of them mine.
I met with friends at 8 a.m. to go garage sailing, which was nice for two other reasons. First, I’m supposed to be getting up at the same time on weekends (good sleep patterns to avoid migraines), and I got to do something social on the weekend, which I don’t always do.
Other purchases and income: a travel book sold on half.com, so I get $3.73 in income ($5.80 less the $2.07 postage). That’s a nice surprise, I haven’t sold two books in two months in a long time. Also, I mailed something to a buddy, so $9.84 postage. I had thought parcel post was cheaper, but I guess it’s been a while since I mailed something that wasn’t media mail. It’s not really a gift; I guess I’ll stick it in miscellaneous
Friday we did not go to lunch for Cinco de Mayo, so there is money unspent. Friday I also did not go the the barbecue and play poker. (I think it may have been cancelled; regardless, I was a little too worn from the week to attend.)So I still have my pretty eggplant, and I still have my $26 left for poker playing this year.
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May 5th, 2006 at 02:45 am
I've figured out a benefit to eating lighter and going out to eat. Tomorrow a couple of us are going to a Mexican restaurant for Cinco de Mayo. And because of my credible threat challenge, I'll be likely to order a smaller dish, as opposed to a Combination Plate that has tons of food. So, it will cost less. And I know I will savor it, because it's a treat now, not just another ten dollar "oh, well" meal.
Saturday morning I Garage Sale with 2 buddies, and I am darned excited. Sometimes I realize I'm not as social as I'd like, and I can have a good time while doing a worthwhile activity. I'll honestly be Christmas shopping!
There are quite a few blogs on this site that are really inspiring. I can't name names...it's like the Oscar speech, you list everybody and still forget to mention a really important person....
Suffice it to say that I thank all of you for being willing to share your daily lives, money aspects and other. It makes me think, and has actually started taking the place of some nightly TV for me. So many of you write so well, and have an honesty and simplicity I just love.
I watch too much bad TV, and I'm working on it. Most TV is bad, I admit. I'm not tackling it, because I'm not in a tackling headspace for anything other than figuring out Roth IRA stuff, the Minimum Wage Challenge, and the Credible Threat challenge. But, I'm working on it. The blogs help.
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May 4th, 2006 at 03:50 am
Couldn't find you another way, so......
(Sorry everyone else....)
I did a reverse auction on the KINS Blue Money, and got a set of certificates, a couple of which I wont use. Could you use:
McClellan Mountain Spring Water, One month delivery of water (4) and dispenser, new customers only, value $35.75, ph# 268-0254 if you have questions
Aracata Auto, QMI Bottle engine oil treatment, value $22, ph# 822-2911. (I don't know if this is a bottle only, or an oil change-if your interested you could call and find out. I have a regular shop myself.)
I don't care if you use them personally or you give them as gifts; I just want them to be used.
I'm happy to mail one or both to you. I'm in Eureka, if you prefer you could pick up.
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May 4th, 2006 at 03:34 am
I love tortillas and beans. Kinda simple statement, but man, we have been eating a lot of them and they are so tasty. Corn tortillas, flour tortillas, whole wheat tortillas. Refried beans, fat free beans, black bean. Some chicken or onions or veggies or tomato. Open faced or rolled. They make me pretty happy and I’m satisfied.
My car didn’t cost as much as I thought. Oil change, general check up, rear brakes fixed up, and a serpentine belt, $125.90. Not bad. My place may not be the cehapest in town, but all the employess have fair benefits, and I know that they are super honest, so I never have to lie awake questioning work I had done.
I walked to work today, because of the car. I’ll try to do the same tomorrow, even though my car’s done. I’m doing well on the Credible Threat, and getting below 190 into the 180s is darned close. A lot of folks at work are doing weight watchers; I decided not to, not just because of the cost but because it didn’t seem to fit me. I’ve heard wonderful things about it, but don’t feel it would suit me right now. The benefit, though, is that now at work there are quite a few of us working to be healthier and slimmer. I now have a regular walking buddy, which makes me take my breaks, too. The camaraderie isn’t about food and potlucks and candy, it’s about being motivated to make positive change.
Friday we’re invited to a Barbecue and Poker Tournament (followed by live game). I only have $26 left from my 2006 poker winnings, so I need to win or stay even to be able to keep playing. I’m not sure what I’ll bring; potato salad sounds good and easy and cheap. And to grill? Perhaps some eggplant. I’m not vegetarian, but I do have a nice, pretty eggplant. I’m intimidated by cooking meat sometimes, and though I love sausage a lot of it has nitrates which may (or may not) trigger my migraines.
I've had a series of overall good days, and that's helped me feel more energetic.
Friday I train nine people all day. I love training, but I know I'll be wiped at the end. It's good to be energetic going in.
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May 2nd, 2006 at 03:11 pm
Last night I neglected to post the actual numbers.
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May 2nd, 2006 at 05:31 am
April books are closed, and I’m making it. Success for month two of the (Modified) Minimum Wage Challenge. I have a total of $145.06 “banked” to use for future larger purchases (such as car insurance in July).
I tell ya, the health situation knocked me a bit. Darned body, causing me trouble. I spent more than I should have for the month, but I spent no extra on fun stuff. I was very lucky that all our hard work on the electric bill resulted in such a decrease in that bill.
It’s shaken me, a little. I know that I’m going to get a bill from the doctor’s office for the mole removal, but I’m not sure how much it will be. I know that I’m due for my 35,000 mile tune up – my brakes are starting to squeak, and my Change Oil reminder is lighting up. In June, I think I might have to renew my water aerobics; I’m weighing whether I should or not. (The woman I go with is a friend of mine who, due to bad knees, can’t do other activities. If it weren’t for her I’d likely drop it but being her Pool Pal is a real factor for me.) And Car Insurance is coming due soon.
What has shaken me is not the above expenses, or that I might wobble on the challenge. The reality is I have money to “cheat” with if it comes to that. I worry, knowing that others don’t have the safety of drawing on reserves. For many, living on minimum wage is not an idle Challenge for someone with too much time on her hands to blog about. I get a dose of humility when I think of myself in this position without my actual income. Meeting all needs while satisfying some wants is manageable, but it takes time and effort and desire and attention must be paid.
It crossed my mind to cut down on medications due to this challenge. I won’t do that, no worries, but I bet others do. A person with limited income facing some larger bills might think of halving the dosage on meds, driving uninsured for a couple months, not getting preventative maintenance on the car, or putting some of the bills on a credit card. I have the luxury of not having to do those.
I’m sticking with the Challenge. I plan to make it, and if I don’t make it, it won’t be because of a couple rough months. I have to remind myself, I didn’t think this was going to be easy. (Well, maybe I thought it’d be easier.) I’ll remind myself of the reasons for doing this challenge, and remind myself to give thanks for what I do have. I have a warm bed in a safe house with a full pantry, and to be ungrateful would be a dishonor to any person who goes without these this evening.
A raw dollar reason I was doing the challenge was to save money for the $20 challenge. My spent of $1073 is $519 less than my average per month last year. (I know I have some unspent as of now, but it will be spent on budgeted purchases.) Adding back in the $39 I put into "savings" under the challenge, I saved an additional $558 for the $20 challenge.
(Boring full disclosure: I drive to the airport in my car each month for work, 32 miles round trip. I get money back per mile, .44-1/2 cents. I didn’t want to include the “income” I get from driving for work in this Challenge. On the other hand, that trip is about a third of my monthly miles. I decided that I would allow myself one gallon of gas “paid for” by work each month to compensate. So I took $3 off the gas I paid in April, and I’ll do the same in May. It seemed like a fair compromise.)
Total on the $20 Challenge for two months: $1116.
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April 30th, 2006 at 07:29 pm
We'll be going to the grocery store, to get some vegetables and perhaps some shrimp (supposed to be 78 cents for a half dozen?) to go to a barbecue. We'll perhaps play croquet, and enjoy the mild sun. Since I do water aerobics tomorrow, I may not close out my challenge books until Tuesday. I know I made it, it's just a matter of how much I am able to carry over into May.
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April 28th, 2006 at 11:55 pm
We were blown away by how many trade dollars we got at the books store; $40.78! That will help with quite a few birthday and Christmas presents. And, we also have more shelf space, since we are no longer keeping books we have no interest in re-reading. A no spend day, which always helps, and a productive day. I take advantage of my perky moments.
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April 28th, 2006 at 09:00 pm
My Guy got into the purge mood, which usually hits me much more often. So our pile for donations is nice and big, and I like being leaner. We’ve got a bunch of books we’re going to try to get some trade from-most mine. We’re gonna walk to the bookstore, which will be .7 miles there and back. I know that with my Challenge, I have to think gifts early, and getting trade will help with that. Most folks I’d get a gift for has at least one type of book they’d like.
This last week I’ve not missed water aerobics once, I walked to work once, and I’ve been very conscious of eating well, eating right. No migraine, and good energy; a nice rare not too lazy day!
So, after hanging laundry and walking to the bookstore, I’ll feel proud, and maybe even purge some more. The less crud I have, the less I have to clean and dust. I want to only have things I use and love.
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April 28th, 2006 at 07:04 am
I’m trying to live on minimum wage: free food is wonderful.
I’m trying to lose 20 pounds by September 13: free food is dangerous.
As a civil servant, I rarely go to meetings with coffee offered, let alone treats. Today I ended up at a meeting with a breakfast spread that included fresh fruit, bagels and lox, and then one with a catered lunch. I did the best I could under the conditions; selected the healthiest items, ate and was happy, and gave thanks that my dilemma today was how to handle free food. Others faced worse difficulties today.
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April 28th, 2006 at 06:59 am
In February, pre-challenge, I bought tickets to see David Sedaris. It is very rare I buy tickets like this; the last time was to see Spalding gray, in the late '90s. My Guy and I have loved to listen to Sedaris on National Public Radio, and read him in the New Yorker or get his books. The $45 tickets were a huge treat. I was shocked at the time; it had been so long since I had gotten tickets for a performance that I had really thought it would be maybe $18, or perhaps as high as $25. If I had been on the challenge in February, I still think I would have gone, however it would have made a huge dent in my budget.
It is an unpleasant decision to have to make: 20 pounds of cheese or an unforgettable memory. Usually I choose cheese, since so many unforgettable moments are free. Tonight I was glad to have paid for this memory. I felt joyful in his presence, and am sated. And, the next time a favorite performer comes around in 2014, I’ll probably pay for tickets to see them. I don’t mind paying….every 8 or so years.
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April 27th, 2006 at 03:26 am
I wrote a little piece on how being lazy and frugal can go together. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that people in my life think that my thriftiness takes a lot of effort.
Lots of frugal things might take more time; hanging laundry, or being crafty, or baking bread from scratch. When I have some energy, I do the active stuff, and prepare for those times when I won’t be up to it.
I admit I have a lazy streak. Some people aren’t lazy, but the complexity of their daily lives might lead them to think they don’t have the time to be frugal. It was a critical turning point for me when I realized some frugal activities are low effort, and could frankly be easier than costlier solutions. Here are ways in which laziness has worked for me.
Meals at home
When I do cook, I cook simply, and I cook a lot. Cooking one night can cover many meals. For most of the time when I don’t feel like cooking, I’m prepared. If I make pasta and sauce with some vegetables, I put a couple big tubs in the freezer and some smaller ones for lunches. I just have the regular freezer in the fridge, but I can sure get a lot of loaves of bread and tubs of food in there. Crockpot meals can be as simple as three ingredients. Bulghur, broth, canned tomatoes. Whole chicken, can of coconut milk, piece of lemongrass (from Asian foods store) makes Thai chicken. It may not be as good as a restaurant meal, but it is low effort and frugal and I’m not picky.
If I make muffins, it’s as much time to make a triple batch as a single batch. I can make muffins once every two weeks, taking advantage of an energetic moment. That’s breakfast and snack food for pennies.
Take out
To fight the urge for takeout when I can’t deal with cooking, I try to keep a couple low (no) effort but tasty things at home. I have a nice frozen pasta & cheese concoction in the freezer I made a while ago. In a normal mood, I’ll just use the lentils and stew and plain stuff. But when I need comfort food, and have the takeout urge, I can bring out that sorta special dish, which was the result of a simple recipe tripled. Even when bone tired I can press the microwave button. We’ve also used canned soup as Take Out-not much effort to microwave or heart on stove. Even when we splurge on a fancy $1.75 canned soup for these moments, we’re still saving big bucks. It’s less time for me to open a can of soup than to go to a place for take out.
Morning Routine
I’m not grumpy in the morning, but I don’t like to get up and do too much stuff. So I prepare the coffee the night before. I’ve even put cereal in a bowl on the counter the night before, which My Guy found funny, but I do what it takes. If I was even lazier, I swear I’d stick instant coffee in a cup with water in the microwave the night before. Having my coffee made for me, at a Java Store, would take much more effort. If I make oatmeal, three or four tubs go in the microwave. When energetic, the night before I’ll stick some fruit, yogurt and milk in the blender and stick the blender in the fridge. I have no excuse to not eat breakfast. Even if I’m running really late, I can grab the ever-present muffins, or a tub of oatmeal to microwave at work. I get out of bed at 6:45 and I’m at work at 7:30. Yes, that’s forty-five minutes including commute.
Housecleaning
I like simple and plain. My house lacks clutter. It’s very simple to clean, because not too much is in it. Living room is a couch, a book case, a TV, and a coffee table. That’s it. Cleaning means folding the blanket on the couch and taking coffee cups from the table to the kitchen. The less I take time to buy, the less I need to clean. A Laziness Bingo.
Lunch
I always have my tubs (see above) and my muffins. Sometimes I’ll hard-boil a few eggs, and stash those. It’s hard not to find time to grab some combination of these, plus maybe a vegetable or piece of fruit. If I still manage to not grab a lunch, I have an emergency stash in a drawer at work. On a more energetic day, I brought in a bag of nuts, canned sardines, canned veggies. If I didn’t have a desk drawer I could stash it in my car.
Grocery shopping
I don’t like grocery shopping. So I don’t do it very often. Our ideal is one run to the main store with good deals and bulk foods, then one trip to the outlet/seconds store, in a month. Sometimes we might go twice, but never even close to weekly. We stock up a lot on non-perishables. Some fresh foods are pretty hardy: eggs, carrots, apples, cabbage. If we run out mid month, oh well. It’s easier to get up the oomph to shop once a month than once a week. Yeah, I might miss a loss leader special -maybe I'll make that special trip, but if not, I can live with that.
People just starting out being frugal, peeking out from behind their credit cards at the promised land of No Debt and Growing Savings, should know that there is a form of frugality that fits everyone. Thrift is a mighty big tent. Those of us who aren’t on the go-go-go all the time are welcome in it.
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April 26th, 2006 at 02:05 am
Not really clear what a POO box is? Neither were the 200 or so people across the State I e-mailed today, for work. Since I was discussing addresses, they may have gleaned that I meant P.O. Box. But that’s not what I wrote.
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April 25th, 2006 at 04:52 am
...can go together.
Some days, I just don't have the energy to spend money. No desire for a mall trip, a makeover, a new appliance, anything. Don't want to take the time to online shop.
And I can't be bothered to get take out or go out, so I'm eating what's in my freezer. But I know I get lazy, so when I make stew or lentils or whatnot, a bunch of tubs go in the freezer-laziness preparation.
Somedays my frugality is more active, but lazy days don't dent me. I may be lying on the couch reading, doing nothing, but that nothing includes no spending.
Dollars out today: zero.
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April 24th, 2006 at 04:32 am
...may have made you turn heels and run. I should beware the lengthy posts. I promise, just a little chat here and there for at least a week. I just was typing away, had no idea it was such a behemoth until I looked later.
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April 23rd, 2006 at 09:26 pm
Yesterday I posted the details of how my challenge is going, and then I realized some folks may not know why I’m doing the challenge. I decided to do the (modified) minimum wage challenge 02/25/06, after reading the “Challenge::Live on $5.15 an hour::“ thread under General Discussion; mine is modified because I am using the California minimum wage of $6.75. My original reasons are far outnumbered by the rewards I’m seeing. I decided to do this for a couple reasons, but I find am getting more than I expected.
I am getting:
a clear sense of the value of a dollar.
a sense of freedom in not spending everything I make.
additions to my frugal toolkit.
more creative, to cook better meals and put together better gifts.
excellent clarification on where I am getting good value in my spending.
an ability to savor my treats instead of taking them for granted.
the satisfying feeling one gets from taking on a challenge.
the security of knowing that I am prepared if I hit a financial rough spot.
more money to use for long term plans; retirement, house down payment.
a clear idea that healthcare is broken; I am exceeding lucky to have an insurance plan that costs me $44 in premiums; I’d like to see all people have the “luxury” of affordable healthcare.
more exercise, in trying to decrease gas use, hanging clothes, etc.
a better diet, in going out less and eating beans, grains, and vegetables.
an enjoyable, if slightly odd, hobby.
a sense of gratitude.
The idea that a good life could be lived on a low income if needs were taken care of before wants is an idea has been percolating for me since I was in my early twenties. It took me a while to act on that idea.
When I grew up, my parents spent what they made. Payday was treat day, the day before payday the fridge was bare. I think that with the double income of white collar professionals, we could have been in a lot better shape than we were, but we had a paycheck to paycheck instability. I didn’t learn to save. I got my first real job at 15-1/2 to the day, and I spent a lot of that money on frivolous items-an obscene amount on meals out.
In my late teens and early twenties I made poor money decisions, but I did subscribe to Amy Dacyczyn’s “Tightwad Gazette” newsletter for a bit, so that planted a seed. I don’t believe that being exposed to information is ever a waste; when I needed to change financially I had a direction to turn to.
It was in my late twenties that I starting cleaning up my life, including my finances. At this time I had been pretty low income. I had been $6.75 and hour part time (30 hours a week or less), and then became lucky enough to go to $7 an hour full-time, 37.5 hours a week with benefits. During that time, I was able to pay off old debt. I had also always managed to find money for alcohol and cigarettes-it was a priority to me at the time. I had somewhere between $3000 and $6000 in debts, medical bills, and fines, and though that might seem low, it felt crushingly large.
Living within and below my means became a tool for me to not feel afraid financially. I didn’t mind eating oatmeal if it meant not owing any more money. I was much more scared of debt than I was any deprivation I might have felt. We never went hungry, we always paid rent, but things were tight. I balanced my checkbook daily because sometimes I had as little as $5 in my account.
I got a job as a civil servant, eligibility worker in welfare, interviewing clients who needed Medi-Cal or food stamp benefits. My starting wage in 2000 was $8.43 an hour. I later moved to cash aid, where my clients received cash aid welfare. A lot of these people seemed to not have the frugality skills to live within a small income. I have a lot of compassion for people on aid, regardless of whether life choices or unforeseen circumstances placed them there. I don’t want to get in the welfare debate. I also do not want to get into the Minimum wage debate; I am not arguing that minimum wage is a fair wage. (I will say I think that affordable health care for all would go a long way to helping families make it on lower incomes.)
What I am saying is that our overall culture does not teach frugality. Some of my clients had a series of brutal knocks in life, and being frugal would not have prevented domestic violence, abusive parents, job loss, drug or alcohol abuse, low education, injury and illness. However, during those times of stress, I was seeing that if money was spent differently, at least some of the stress could be lessened. When I started as a worker the food stamp level was $130-something maximum for one person, and people were telling me that they could not eat on that. I was spending much less than that. These folks did not want to buy foie gras, steak, or caviar; but they were buying a lot of name brand items, a lot of convenience foods, a lot of snack foods. One client told me, when granted food stamp benefits, that she was glad that she didn’t have to get the 4 loaves for $5 deal anymore. This was at the time that I was buying 50 cent loaves at the bread thrift store, at the same time that I could have spent $2.50 a loaf if I wanted too. I realized that I had a different head space than other people.
Now 6 years later, I’ve been promoted a couple times and make what I consider pretty decent money, especially for my area. I still buy bread at the thrift store. I had been spending more as my income went up, but I had still spent below my means. As I’ve spelled out in prior posts, my per month average spent last year was $1592, and that included a week long trip to Oaxaca and a weeklong trip to Belgium and Poland, and many meals out.
What some people still fail to see is why I would line dry and wash Ziplocs and buy bulk bulghur. Co-workers and friends see frugality as something to be used when broke, but something that a better income can free you from. I don’t have full cable (I have the $9.95 twelve channel deal), and folks wonder why I don’t have full cable since I can "afford” it. A friend gave me a bunch of paper grocery sacks, and I found a receipt in one. This person spends regularly, but I was shocked at what a “normal” household buys on a grocery trip.
I’ve been through three phases: low income with debt, low income without debt, and higher income living below means.
For the people in debt:
Getting out of debt was one of the most satisfying moments ever. It was definitely incentive to not ever go into debt again. I bought a used car and paid cash, because I couldn’t deal with the idea of car payments. Living low, regardless of one’s income, is a great way to free up money to pay off debt more quickly and avoid new debt.
For the people on a low income:
I want to show that living on a low income does not have to mean hunger and deprivation and boredom and insecurity. Other people on this site, in the forums and blogs, speak eloquently about making do with little. I’m giving the detailed numbers based on my real life to show that under certain circumstances it can be done. Admittedly, the minimum wage in California is higher than most of the country, but the cost of living is higher too. I’ve already acknowledged that if I were actually minimum wage I’d cancel my cable, my Netflix, drive less and walk more, spend less on dining out and clothing, have a cheaper apartment, etc. The money I saved on those would be going to an emergency fund. I admit I am childless, am not disabled, and no longer have any debt. I am living pretty high on my $1073, though-with bulk foods and thrift stores and ingenuity, a person could do a little with a lot. If I had started this challenge with nothing-no home, no furniture, and the clothes on my back-I could use Freecycle and thrift stores to get the minimum basics while I put all my money into an apartment.
For those of us who are making decent money:
Doing this exercise has been invaluable for me to see where I get good value from my spending. I have overspent on clothes, because I don’t like clothes shopping, so I go twice a year and get what I need at one or two stores. If I shopped smarter, by checking thrift stores occasionally, I could get better clothes for less. I splurge on silver and semi-precious stone jewelry, $10 to $50 per item, and I don’t regret a single purchase. Jewelry is my favorite souvenir from traveling, and I wear my pieces all the time. So I know that I’ve been getting not-so-good value from clothing purchases, but great value from jewelry purchases. A lot of spending on items where I get low value comes from having more money. It is rare that if people get a raise, they still spend exactly what they used to make. I used my extra money to pay for the convenience of one-stop clothes shopping, not for higher quality or more flattering clothes. I’m trying to see if I can choose not to spend money on convenience. I can put a lot of my money into retirement, or investing, if I don’t pay for unnecessary convenience.
Now, I don’t say that any particular purchase is bad. Take the oft-quoted latté factor. I myself don’t appreciate lattés and I brew coffee at home and bring it to work in a travel mug. However, I know people for whom the latté is a truly enjoyed daily treat. They get good value out of the purchase. Where we get value is an individual decision; for some spending less in some areas lets them have a stay at home parent, for others (me!) spending less in other areas lets me travel a couple of times a year.
And with that lengthy post, I’m hoping my reasons for this challenge are clearer. Whew.
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April 22nd, 2006 at 08:35 pm
As I’m saying I’m making it on minimum wage, I feel obligated to post the detailed budget periodically. I’ve been very honest about all expenses and haven’t left off any expenses unless I specifically said so. (For example, I travel for work about once a month; I am not counting what I spent traveling for meals, nor am I counting what I will get from work for meals as income. I usually come out ahead.) A couple times when my boyfriend has wanted to go out, I’ve declined him treating me. I’ve said either, no, nothing for me, go by yourself, or, I've paid my share and put it in my budget. It is challenging sometimes to have the disposable income and have to forego a purchase; but then, otherwise it wouldn’t be a challenge, right?
Reminder on income: $6.75 CA minimum wage x 40 hours x 4.33 weeks per month less FICA and SDI = $1073. I’m counting income from recycling and selling books on half.com; I usually sell about one book every three months-it’s not a real moneymaker, but it’s something. I got $8.77 in April, less $1.50 in postage, for $7.27. That’s real money on my budget.
March income $1073 plus $6.73 recycling = $1079.73.
April income $1073 plus $7.27 textbook sold = $1080.27.
Why could I only spend $986.97 in April? It’s because I overspent some categories in March-for a total of $93.30. Income of $1080.27 less $93.30 is $986.97. Why is my balance in April $170.79? It’s because I’m also carrying over unspent money from March.
I’m using the YNAB budget to track. I may not be using it exactly as designed. For example, Say I budget $62 for April for prescriptions and co-pays. Then I have a funky month where I spend $167.32. If I was absolutely true to the budget, I would not adjust the budgeted amount, and to compensate for my “overspending” I would have $105.32 taken away from my May budget. Well, if I have under spent categories in April, I am adjusting those budgeted figures, and increasing the budget for prescriptions. I’m not “taking” money from categories I have to save, like the money I’ll need for my car insurance in July. Where I will move money from a budget line is where I can under spend, such as grocery or gifts or entertainment.
Now, with the YNAB, I have to enter all purchases twice; into my regular Quicken that I’ve used since ‘98, and into my YNAB spreadsheet. In the spirit of full disclosure, I neglected a double entry last month; I spent $10 in charity but only entered it in Quicken. I’m showing that I spent that $10 in April, as I didn’t want to re-do the finals.
Full disclosure two: there is a radio show in town where one can buy “gift certificates” at less than face value for local businesses. For example, for this nice soul food place in town, $17 got me $30 worth. The general merchandise certificates are printed on blue paper, so I call them Blue Money. I do have left over Blue Money for restaurants that I bought in 2005 or Jan/Feb 2006, and I have used some. I haven’t bought more (if I do it will come out of the budget), but my thought was that I already had them so I could use them. I certainly didn’t stock up prior to the challenge. If people think it's unfair to use them, let me know.
I’m starting a combination emergency/big purchase fund. I know it’s starting small, but if I manage to under spend in enough categories, I want to be able to have both emergency money, and a fund I can use to cover big purchases, such as a replacement dryer, or a new freezer.
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April 21st, 2006 at 08:29 pm
I got back from Sacramento fine on Wednesday night. I was more thrilled with a thrift store run than being able to eat out-a surprise to me, but no unpleasant. Perhaps part of my mind is really seeing that longer term purchases such as clothes are better than short term ones such as eating out. I had a huge spree for $13.75 – three shirts, a couple a little nicer than usual because I’d like to bump up my work appearance without being uncomfortable. A pair of flannel jammie bottoms, a muffin tin, bread loaf tin, and a pastry brush. The Deseret Industries thrift store is just beautiful-so organized and huge selection. Items are organized by type-short sleeve blouses, long sleeve blouses, then by size, then by color. With such a huge selection of quality clothes, I don’t mind the prices being a little higher- $4 is not super cheap, but for a very nice work blouse it’s not extravagant.
Migraine today, but still won’t be a no spend today-my medical line in the budget is gonna take another big prescription hit. I’m not thrilled about it, but it’s not an extravagant expense.
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April 18th, 2006 at 04:09 am
I'm into the groove of not spending much, and staying within my minimum wage budget without strain. I'm able to save over half my income this way, and I suppose that's exciting, but I can't tell a fascinating "I didn't go to the mall" story. However, my increased frugality has become a habit.
We've done 2 birthdays with low expenditure and high return, by being extra thoughful and taking time. We've starting cooking more, both grains and beans and other simple stuff at home, and nicer stuff to take to friends' houses. We cut out electric bill over 50%. When we go out to eat we savor the experience. We line dry regardless of the weather, after doing a second spin. We come up with non-spend solutions before solutions thet require an expenditure.
I had always felt in control overall of my spending and knew I lived below my means, but I have felt very good about living so far below my means. It's like I'm adding all sorts of tools to my toolkit, so that if anything bad should happen as far as income, I have a security blanket of knowing I can make do and be satisfied.
I knew my challenge was to live on minimum wage; I didn't realize an extra bonus would be to have an increased sense of gratitude for all that I have.
Okay, that was a little hokey, but, today it's true.
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April 17th, 2006 at 04:15 am
I travel for work about once a month. Tuesday I fly out at dawn, and then spend the night and fly back Wednesday late. This means that I will be eating out, without an impact to my wallet. It feels so...decadent. When I used to drive instead of fly I’d bring some groceries and eat in the hotel room. I could still do that I suppose, but I meet a friend who stays at the same hotel and we like to go to dinner.
Now, I get paid per diem for my expenses. I always spend less than I get, so I usually come out ahead. However, I’m keeping the travel income and expenses out of the challenge. I can’t say I get $32 for meals and spent $20 so have a $12 profit, when in real life I would not be traveling for work with a minimum wage job.
Speaking of which, a super frugal tip I have used: make a cheese sandwich and wrap in foil. When you get to the motel, use the iron to heat the sandwich on the outside of the foil. Voila-grilled cheese. This was probably a more pertinent tip before microwaves were in most motels, but I still get a kick out of it.
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April 16th, 2006 at 06:03 am
Here's a mid-month update. I kinda had forgotten the $20 challenge aspect to it. (see below) My spent month of $1073 is $519 less than my average per month last year. Adding back in the $39 I put into "savings" under the challenge, I saved $558 in March for the $20 challenge.
So why is my budget less than $1073? It’s all spelled out at Jesse’s YouNeedABudget.com site. For new folks: This is also my $20 challenge: I purchased JMJJ215’s budgeting software at www.youneedabudget.com, because I needed a way to track the challenge. I use Quicken for myself, but I am depositing more than $1073, so really needed a separate method, and I thought I’d try YNAB product. Here it is in a poorly imparted nutshell: If I overspent a category in March, I have to reduce my spending in April to catch up. Even though I spent less than $1073 in March, in some categories, like Workout, I overspent, and have to under spend in this month.
Why do some categories have a balance higher than the budget? It’s the flip side of the above, in a way. If I under spend, that category has “banked” money. I don’t pay $51 dollars a month for car insurance; I pay $304 two times a year. Using this system, I “bank” that money each month, without any work; the budget does it for me. When the Insurance Bill comes due, I’ll have that money. So my balances are this month’s budget, less this months expenditures, plus last months unspent money budgeted in that category.
So, my spent this month plus my balance should equal my monthly budget, $1073, plus my “banked” money of $71.28. (It’s off by a penny above on the chart – it’s a rounding issue, and I didn’t want to redo the chart as a graphic.)
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April 15th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Today is a wonderful, stay at home rainy day. I’ve got the water on to boil, I’ll make homemade cocoa, or maybe some fancy mocha mix my friends got as a gift, didn’t like, and passed on. (I accept re-gifts very happily.) I made some muffins; apple vanilla oatmeal, made low fat and low sugar, but the taste rocks. Breakfast was potato, zucchini, egg pie-an easy version of a frittata. The house is tidy; some clothing is hanging in the house to dry. I have a bunch of TV recorded form the week, and I’m gonna curl up and watch some mindless entertainment and not feel guilty. (I have only 10 channels, so through the week I tape even “okay” stuff knowing that come the weekend, TV seems to be all sport on the channels I get- golf, NASCAR, ice skating.)
My Guy is making another birthday present. We bought a used book last month (my share $7.10), we got a couple of fancy beers (I had a gift certificate for a liquor store-don’t ask. Or, you can ask, but it’s boring.) Our friend’s favorite band is Steely Dan, so we are doing the same thing we did for his wife last month; melding two pictures together: we have Our Friend in the middle of a lineup looking like a band member.
For anyone with a printer, I recommend this idea for gifts: making magnets. I had a ton of flat square and rectangle magnets; given out or mailed as promotional items. For example Synovate the survey folks, Pizza joints, things like that. Print something you like. Even if you don’t have color printer or don’t have photographic paper, you can write and print your favorite saying or poem. Or take a regular photograph and put it on the magnet. Cut to size, glue, and you’re done.
I’ve got a little clip of A World War II poster-“Food is a Weapon-Don’t Waste It! Buy wisely, cook carefully, eat it all.” I am going to make a little magnet for myself. Why pay for one, or advertise Papa Murphy’s on my fridge, when I can float my own boat for the cost of a glue stick and paper?
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April 15th, 2006 at 12:43 am
I bought bulk popcorn and popped it in a paper bag in the microwave. It worked perfectly. I watched it close the entire time. No burning, and if for some reason it had burst into flames I would have caught it. Now I can have healthy, butter-free popcorn for pennies at anytime. For 1.22 in bulk I would guess I have 20 to 40 bags worth.
I bought some really cheap conditioner, 1.99 for a huge bottle, enough for months. Sadly, the conditioner is thin, and I needed a lot of it to condition my hair. I solved my problem. I am using it as a leave in conditioner. I tested it and it works great. Instead of double the normal amount, I use ½ the normal amount. Instead of lasting months it will last over a year.
I love minor victories like this.
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April 14th, 2006 at 07:16 am
I got our gas and electric bill, and it was the most pleasant shock I'd had all week. $127.09, down from $304.60 last month. (My share is one half.)
I thought it had to be a mistake, it's down over 50%!
Now, part of the savings was because we reduced our gas usage by 10 percent from Jan 1 to March 31, which gained us a 20% discount. However, that accounted for about 30 bucks.
Our current electric bill is 43% of what it was. Fantastic. I'm able to compare bills month to month online, and it will tell me about how much of an increase/decrease is accounted for by usage, taxes/fees, rate, days in billing period, etc. Our change in usage alone resulted in a decrease of over a hundred dollars. The rate even went up, and my bill plummeted.
Our usage went from 37 KWH a day to 23 KWH.
I think most of the decrease was just stopping heater usage-I didn't think they could be so much when used on low in small spaces for limited periods of time, but now I'm a believer. We already had flourescent compact bulbs, low appliance use, etc. I do feel, however, that my attention to detail-paying attention to lights being on, turning off my computer sometimes, line drying even more, made a dent too.
I needed good news this week, and this helps. I may be willing to go ahead and get the haircut I was delaying-since my prescription and insurance co-pays were such a hit this month. However, I overspent Medical by 40 some odd dollars, and underspent what I budgeted for electric by over 60 dollars.
Oh, did I need this boost. Not the money, just a bit of good news.
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April 12th, 2006 at 04:01 am
My budget has taken a blow, from medical expenses. I almost got angry, and then realized that I better be d___ed grateful I have insurance. What if I didn’t? I wouldn’t be getting treated, or I may be choosing not to take my medicine. That would be worse. A lot of people have no insurance, and people are suffering right this minute. Has anyone mentioned lately that the healthcare system is broken? Oh, it’s on the news every five minutes? But not fixed yet, huh?
I had $62 budgeted per month, the average last year of my co-pays, prescriptions, etc. Last month I was over by $3-I thought OK, fluke, it will even out. No this month I am at $107.32. Just relatively minor issues (later I’ll read that “minor” and grimace) but it added up. I think next month will be better: hoping no doctor’s visit co-pays, and small medicine co-pays.
The Challenge remains intact; I’ll try to cut other areas. I have $39 in “savings” plus $72.38 held over from March, to pay larger later bills, such as insurance in July. I will aim to not dip into either of these, but at least they are there.
So, little things perk me up in the face of the above adversity. I am tickled by drain strainers.
We had no drain strainer in the bathtub for years, and a funky, non-fitting, just yucky one in the kitchen. I don’t usually go to hardware stores, and what I saw idly in Grocery or Home stores seemed overpriced and like it wouldn’t fit. (Old, old house.) When I visited my folks in January, they had an unused pack of 2 strainers, wire mesh. The large one works perfect in the kitchen sink, and the small one fits perfectly in the bathtub. No more worries about clogs. I am still enjoying that “gift”!
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April 11th, 2006 at 03:17 am
This site pumps me up but good. Great energy. So many people are facing daily and major problems with wit, grace, and humor. Pumpity pumpity pump. Catch that fever.
My (Modified) Minimum Wage Challenge is on track. No spending to report. Not spending is starting to become a habit. I’m also getting used to not eating out much, which may relate to …
The Credible Threat Challenge: I’m making progress. I don’t want to name a number, because day to day things vary, but I’m in the right direction.
My health is better today, I was at work all day, so some guilt is going away; I have issues with how many health issues I have. It felt like a productive day: putting away hung laundry, eating a healthy meal for the third meal in a row, feeling like if I chip away and keep moving in the right directions that I can achieve any goal.
I’ll pay all the bills in a few days. Our phone bill has a bogus charge from a company for a “voice mail box.” It’s funny, when I called to say “Hey you nuggets we ordered no such thing” I got a “voicemail full” response. So the regular phone company is pulling it off the bill and notifying Bogus Company that there was a refusal to pay. I will keep trying to reach them, to give them heck. Some people probably don’t notice and pay those thieves. No other bills are due though and I like to pay them all at once.
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